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It's not just working machinery, it's also the conditions that some factories put their workers under. I know of one, but I will not say the name. They were having some people working 16 hour shifts. They were allowing these people to work this much in one day! That's just not right. It isn't just that females can't work machinery, obviously they can, but some of these factories are really, really bad, especially for females, to be working in. Just something for you to think about.

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I agree. If charity was the best solution, why hasn't this been fixed yet? why don't people have the true support they need?

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I agree. If charity was the best solution, why hasn't this been fixed yet? why don't people have the true support they need?

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If someone with less money wants, desperately, to pursue their dream career, or knows they want a career and not just an everyday job forever, they can’t because they don’t have enough money. They could ask someone for help, but maybe that person, too, is working him/herself to the bone trying to make enough money for their own education and they can’t help you. How would you be able to get money to help pay for, not only college, but just able to afford food, drink, clothing and shelter for yourself? The only way would probably be to alternate the years you are in college, meaning every other year you go to college and the rest of the time you same as much money as you can. At the same time, you still have to keep enough money around that you can pay for the most fundamental human needs. Why do I mention this, the struggle for education and money? Because this is the reality of all life. All life in all the world. Not a class system that people think exists. In America, there is a promise for money and peace. What peace comes from lack of education and living life with no knowledge of how the world works? This may happen with those with more money. A child will be raised and have their college paid for, always have a place to go for shelter, and always have a way to easily convince people, businesses, government, etc. money, the exact thing that many people think the world, and America, revolve around, is the only thing anyone ever needs, but it’s not. We also need trust, friendship and fairness. America could do better. We could all do a lot better. Telling people the truth, being friends, not enemies, helping America have equality in every way possible. Equality in labor, education, as well as helping people with less money. Most people with more money seem to think they have more power and they mostly both frown upon and only give people with less money no more than a sideways glance. How is this America? Why is this America? Does this have to be America? Is this America’s future? It’s not even the future, it is the present, so why do we let this continue? I would say people with less money should take a stand for help and fairness and be recognized that they aren’t the poor ones. The only poor ones are the rich with their poor attitude, but I would not ask these people to fight either because they already fight so hard to take care of themselves and their families. The rich and poorer need to be balanced out. Anyone with more money should reach out and help pull anyone with less money out of the ditch. I know there are charities and such, but this isn’t enough. And it’s not just the money. Like I said, it is also the trust and friendship that those who we perceive as “rich” lack greatly. I do not believe there is a class system. I only believe there are choices people make that make a difference in their own life and in America. How dare we ignore those who struggle. This “class system” is the abstract idea of a useless hierarchy thinking that money is the only power, but it isn’t. The power only comes from the people. From our choices, trust, love and our friendship.

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The last thing I will point out about the inequality between men and women is the factor of education. Not only in America, but all around the world. According to Dr. Nelly Stromquist’s “Better, Yet Still Unequal” in America, more women graduate college than men in the top 25% of the earning distribution, while in the poorer families or middle class, there is almost no advantage for women. In my opinion, this needs to be change and women need to start being more aggressive in bringing this to people’s attention. It isn’t quite that, in America, women don’t have the right to education, it’s more that those with less money struggle so much more than those with more money to be able to go to and complete college. It shouldn’t be a struggle to get the education you need, yet it is for about 75% of America. We need change in America. Some men have an easier time with their education and getting money because there are more jobs and job positions available to them. For women, there aren’t as many jobs available to earn money and yet we are still expected to be able to pull through college and get a job like everyone else. Just like all men. How can we do this if there are not as many jobs available to women, when women are perceived as weak and inferior, and when there is still racial discrimination and unequal pay between all women and all men? The rights women have, the influence, the stereotypes, the prejudice against women must all stop. Time can’t be rewritten, but the labor laws and rights can be changed. So why not we change these? Why can’t we? Why won’t we? Women have just as much say in this world as men do. We are just as much human. Thinking women are inferior is a mistake, but it will only be noticed when more and more women finally rise up and fight for our rights. When we finally rise up and fight for equal job positions and wages.

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The unequal pay is not the only issue of the inequality between men and women. The other part of unfairness in jobs is some women are able to handle certain jobs while other women are unable to, but at the same time, men are able to handle jobs, such as factory jobs, and some are not. There are some jobs, such as being a teacher, especially in an elementary school, where a teacher should be somewhat delicate toward the children, and some men can’t do that, but some women can. At the same time, some men are better at these jobs than women. This reflects on my previous argument that the pay is unequal, so why, if women do better at a job and work more effectively than men, can’t both men and women have equal pay, as well as the same chance at a job as each other? To add to this, in some jobs, one can be promoted to a manager, but in these jobs, men are the ones who take these jobs so much more often. The people who are in charge of these jobs don’t support women to prove that we can handle these positions. Women may be allowed to try, but we just don’t end up being promoted. This is not fair at all. This has to change.

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I love these examples. I quite agree, for I have somewhat had this experience.

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The only major hierarchy is the work hierarchy, especially in the government, but this kind of hierarchy is not one most people of America are even part of, but there is one thing the people and the government have in common; they are both a part of America, so why should one have more rights than the other? There is one law that was made that I will use as this example; the right to trial. Why would one need a trial? Maybe one committed murder or assaulted someone. Compare the “average” person with one of a “higher power”, the government. If one of each were to commit murder or assault someone, would the government member, perhaps a senator, for example, have more leeway out of the situation than the “average” person? No, of course not. They would have the same penalty. This is also the same between one with less money and a “rich” person, really just one with more money. They would have the same penalty, but, depending on the severity of the problem, one may or may not be able to be let out of prison on bail. So why would there be a “class system” if we all have the same penalty? Why can’t the government help those with less money? There’s no point in leaving those with less money to suffer and/or struggle through life.

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I agree completely. A lot of people with money can be way too cocky and strut around like everyone else is inferior, while people with less money usually have the better judgment and better hearts. People with less money also tend to have more empathy and sympathy for many people, while people with more money may have mostly apathy for others.

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Then should something change, or do you think women and men should stay unequal?

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Then where is the evidence for that? Some men, I even know one, works in a factory, but that factory has bad working conditions, still. Yes, maybe a female couldn't handle all the labor work involved with that, but there are some that can. Women are not weak. Some are stronger than men.

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Both male and female influences and stereotypes are not the only stereotypes, though. There are also still stereotypes against African American, Hispanic, and other races of people, by people in America. Catherine Hill, Ph. D. wrote a blog with her entries being primarily about females and males earning different wages, but more importantly, there is also racial discrimination and unequal pay to those of a different race. Those who are Hispanic or Latina earn the highest pay compared to men of a race/ethnicity while they gain the lowest pay of 53% compared to the pay of white men. African-American women are equal to the Hispanics’ pay, both with 89% of the earnings of men of a race/ethnicity, but only 64% of a white man’s pay. White women, however, only receive 78% from both ethnic men and white men. I thought we were past all the racial discrimination, but it looks like we aren’t done yet. This must stop. Everyone is as much human as everyone else. Why can’t we all be equal, too? There is no point in leaving the pay of ethnic people lower than those who are Caucasian. There is even less point in discriminating against women, constantly holding us back and never letting us show people what women can do. There is no fairness, nor equality, in giving females a fraction of male pay.

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Other choices are choices such as love. If you are a super rich adult and you meet a nice person, but they are not as rich, you aren’t making yourself any lower or them any higher. You chose to love the person, so you help them as well because you want them to be happy. This is not a hierarchy. The present-day United States does not have a public hierarchy. It only has the people who make good choices, and those who make bad ones.

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How does this still recognize women being equal to men if these are women-only courses? How would we know who is better? Are there more of these in men-only schools with the same courses at the same level of difficulty? How could we be equal if no females go head-to-head against the males with the knowledge females have now been granted to learn?

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Influences on males are also issues of inequality among people in America. There is a picture created for men that males have to be big and strong and have to be the ones to get all the money to support themselves and their family. Really, though, there is no reason for people to be someone they are not, nor claiming that others are not as they should be, such as what happens with these kinds of stereotypes against people. Against each other. These stereotypes need to stop. We should all have the right to claim what we think is right or wrong. First amendment; freedom of speech. How often are women allowed free speech to “higher ranking” men? How often are women allowed free speech to their work boss about demanding higher pay, or in doing so, do women have an increased chance in getting fired? Women and men should have the same rights as each other.

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I like the way you think. I agree with you that most peoples' vision is clouded by money alone and that people are really just grouped by other people, and even each other, by how much money one has. Maybe by assuming from how nice a house they have if one would just throw out "you're rich!" rather than just simply "nice house" and respect the fact that that one person is friends with the other person. Like you said, it is an issue of perception.

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I'm pretty sure middle class is just "middle class"; those who have around the average of money. The ones between the rich and the poor. Not too much money to know what to do with or spend on everything, and not too little that one can't buy what they need every day.

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One could be born into a poor, penniless family, barely able to make a living, and as an adult, they are as rich as rich can be. Andrew Carnegie, for example, was born into a poor family and ended up rich, but there are some that are born to a super rich family and end up as an adult with no money or knowledge of what to do on their own. No knowledge of how to even hold a job. These are all choices we make in life. Good education, or lack of focus? Be respectful to your peers and work-mates, or be disrespectful with very little self control and get fired? These all come from the choices we make throughout life, not just as a young-adult. There is no hierarchy of the people, but there are good choices and bad ones that we make.

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Awesome evidence and I quite agree. I've heard the same thing, but I didn't know before what I know now about the prices.

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Currently, Men and Women don’t appear to be equal, but they should be. There is a problem growing in society; the negative influences on females and the growing negative influences toward males. These influences give very negative impressions about both genders. Some, for the females, are that we should be skinny, have long hair, wear tight clothes, and more things like that, but others are even more negative and directed toward females in daily life. Most of these factors are offencive. Some of them may be true, but some, for some people, are very untrue yet still associated with being a female. These are things such as females being uneducated, weak, and not worth much more than just to use us females for personal gain. What so many people don’t realize, though is that many girls are just as strong as guys, and some are stronger. Just because some girls don’t have long hair, or don’t wear tight clothes, doesn’t make them any less equal to any other female or male. It is time to stop being so critical of females and of each other. Let us, the females, be equal to every other female and every male in the United States.

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Not to be disrespectful to any other countries, but which ones are already the excellent ones? Maybe you could name a few. That's all I would like to know. How can we receive higher excellence than which countries?

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I do not believe we have a class system here in America for the average person. Whether "average" means one is poor, homeless, in the "middle class", wealthy, etc. the only "class system" of the people would be the government. However, there are some sub-hierarchy-like things such as positions for different sports, hobbies, and what ever else that may involve some kind of hierarchy, but mainly, the hierarchy of the people of the United States, there is none. One may be born into a family with a lot of money or barely any money, but either way, it is ones' own choice in where they stand. Especially as an adult. What ever "class system" there may be, it only works with peoples' choices in life. Are you going to work hard to get through college with good grades, or, when you are in college, are you going to sit back on the couch and procrastinate and not do your homework and expect that, somehow, you’ll pull through? No. There is not a class system. No hierarchy. Only choices.



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