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AnjiniC(40) Clarified
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They also need to keep their business alive to avoid becoming part of the "lower class".

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We can certainly do that, but would it be enough to compensate for the amount of money lost due to low paying jobs?

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The courses for women only were designed to inspire women to pursue the sciences. This does not mean that the courses are trying to discriminate against men; they are simply trying to get women to develop an interest in science. Most men already have this incentive, and do not need an extra push in the right direction. The science courses for women also encourage them to overcome precedents not set for men.

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This is an example of a website dedicated to supporting women in science:

http://www.awis.org/

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I agree with Anjinni because a lot of teachers are female and not a lot of men will want to have jobs.

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It's not just working machinery, it's also the conditions that some factories put their workers under. I know of one, but I will not say the name. They were having some people working 16 hour shifts. They were allowing these people to work this much in one day! That's just not right. It isn't just that females can't work machinery, obviously they can, but some of these factories are really, really bad, especially for females, to be working in. Just something for you to think about.

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I agree. If charity was the best solution, why hasn't this been fixed yet? why don't people have the true support they need?

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I agree. If charity was the best solution, why hasn't this been fixed yet? why don't people have the true support they need?

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If someone with less money wants, desperately, to pursue their dream career, or knows they want a career and not just an everyday job forever, they can’t because they don’t have enough money. They could ask someone for help, but maybe that person, too, is working him/herself to the bone trying to make enough money for their own education and they can’t help you. How would you be able to get money to help pay for, not only college, but just able to afford food, drink, clothing and shelter for yourself? The only way would probably be to alternate the years you are in college, meaning every other year you go to college and the rest of the time you same as much money as you can. At the same time, you still have to keep enough money around that you can pay for the most fundamental human needs. Why do I mention this, the struggle for education and money? Because this is the reality of all life. All life in all the world. Not a class system that people think exists. In America, there is a promise for money and peace. What peace comes from lack of education and living life with no knowledge of how the world works? This may happen with those with more money. A child will be raised and have their college paid for, always have a place to go for shelter, and always have a way to easily convince people, businesses, government, etc. money, the exact thing that many people think the world, and America, revolve around, is the only thing anyone ever needs, but it’s not. We also need trust, friendship and fairness. America could do better. We could all do a lot better. Telling people the truth, being friends, not enemies, helping America have equality in every way possible. Equality in labor, education, as well as helping people with less money. Most people with more money seem to think they have more power and they mostly both frown upon and only give people with less money no more than a sideways glance. How is this America? Why is this America? Does this have to be America? Is this America’s future? It’s not even the future, it is the present, so why do we let this continue? I would say people with less money should take a stand for help and fairness and be recognized that they aren’t the poor ones. The only poor ones are the rich with their poor attitude, but I would not ask these people to fight either because they already fight so hard to take care of themselves and their families. The rich and poorer need to be balanced out. Anyone with more money should reach out and help pull anyone with less money out of the ditch. I know there are charities and such, but this isn’t enough. And it’s not just the money. Like I said, it is also the trust and friendship that those who we perceive as “rich” lack greatly. I do not believe there is a class system. I only believe there are choices people make that make a difference in their own life and in America. How dare we ignore those who struggle. This “class system” is the abstract idea of a useless hierarchy thinking that money is the only power, but it isn’t. The power only comes from the people. From our choices, trust, love and our friendship.

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The last thing I will point out about the inequality between men and women is the factor of education. Not only in America, but all around the world. According to Dr. Nelly Stromquist’s “Better, Yet Still Unequal” in America, more women graduate college than men in the top 25% of the earning distribution, while in the poorer families or middle class, there is almost no advantage for women. In my opinion, this needs to be change and women need to start being more aggressive in bringing this to people’s attention. It isn’t quite that, in America, women don’t have the right to education, it’s more that those with less money struggle so much more than those with more money to be able to go to and complete college. It shouldn’t be a struggle to get the education you need, yet it is for about 75% of America. We need change in America. Some men have an easier time with their education and getting money because there are more jobs and job positions available to them. For women, there aren’t as many jobs available to earn money and yet we are still expected to be able to pull through college and get a job like everyone else. Just like all men. How can we do this if there are not as many jobs available to women, when women are perceived as weak and inferior, and when there is still racial discrimination and unequal pay between all women and all men? The rights women have, the influence, the stereotypes, the prejudice against women must all stop. Time can’t be rewritten, but the labor laws and rights can be changed. So why not we change these? Why can’t we? Why won’t we? Women have just as much say in this world as men do. We are just as much human. Thinking women are inferior is a mistake, but it will only be noticed when more and more women finally rise up and fight for our rights. When we finally rise up and fight for equal job positions and wages.

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Although I agree with the fact that people with higher income aren't doing anything to close gaps in wealth, and that we're grouping people by "wealth, income, and education," I don't believe this grouping is beneficial. This grouping encourages people to feel as if they can't change their future, that they're restricted by their identity. Your identity shouldn't hurt you, it should give you challenges to overcome.

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Because who knows, they may be able do something. Here is a list of people in history that are rags to riches:

Sheldon Adelson- This man was the son of a cabdriver. He was given $200 to sell newspapers, and started a business which led to his success as a gambler. His chance was when he was 12 and was given $200.

Li Ka-shing- This man was fleeing trouble in China, and went to a plastics factory. He eventually borrowed money to buy the company and became a multi-millionare.

Roman Abramovich- This man, who grew up in the Soviet Union, was a dropout of college, and was a military stint. He worked for an oil company and soon was given money to borrow to buy the company. He now owns Chelsea Soccer Clubs, one of the most valuable soccer clubs in Europe.

There are so many others at the link below.

-Deniz Kalfa 1/30/15

Supporting Evidence: Rags to Riches (www.forbes.com)
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If we didn't have a class system then the people who work really hard would have nothing to work for and the people who don't work will continue to not work, because they think they have no reason to.

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I agree with you Chloe! The only exception may be someone from a rich family who can afford to live off inheritance.

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I somewhat disagree with this......... yes I believe it should be weakened or removed but I believe that the people in poverty could try to work hard and could make a difference if they really wanted to. I also think that not everyone has to join hands as long as there is a significant amount that is fighting for the cause.

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Exactly what I wanted to say. They're some voters who would want a female president, but unfortunately most of the voters choose to have a male president. I'm confused as to why you disputed?

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I think people who experience "rags to riches" transformations are people who see society as it is, and are not blinded by the "class system." If you're born into poverty, you're not going to get out if you don't believe you can do great things, even if you don't have privileges that make doing great things easier.

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Yes, I agree, but that isn't how it based right now. You have to remember women get 77 cents compared to every dollar men earn. Right now, it isn't based on how hard you work but instead if you are a man or woman.

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The American Dream: That one day we might be a poor immigrant, but the next we could be the CEO of a fortune 500 company. That is one of the reasons that the rich on this country feel they earned their money and shouldn't take extra tax raises. I agree that they have the right to earn their money and it's their money,, but in the end keep it in your heart the rest of your country hard working American's who struggle to make a living and support your family.

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While few people earn minimum wages, many earn just enough to support themselves with low paying jobs. There are also a number of teenagers in low paying jobs. While some teenagers do this to earn money on the side, others work in low paying jobs for a living. This contributes to poverty, which, in turn, contributes to a lower class.

Supporting Evidence: Who makes minimum wages? (www.pewresearch.org)
NoahB(30) Clarified
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Your argument is interesting. I'm trying to convince people that we're living by our class system and it doesn't exist; classifying people through those objective and subjective criteria is wrong. However, your argument isn't really saying the opposite, just that there are all these factors, but they don't matter much, and we're doing a good enough to not classify people by them.

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Yes, i believe in this third-world country, there are many classes ranking from high to low. It even shows when we elect presidents for example. Most presidents in the past have came from a wealthy family. For example, Obama came from a wealthy family as well as many past presidents. Then there are people from the lower class, the homeless or poor people. If we didn't have a class system, we would all be equal or same. Which obviously we aren't.

Supporting Evidence: America's Class System (www.usatoday.com)
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I totally agree with this!!! It does ruin people's happiness because the lower class start to lose hope that things could ever get better and everyone deserves a fair chance in life.

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I agree with you that there should be a class system and that everyone shouldn't be the same. However I do think the disparity between the rich and poor shouldn't be as high, that's all.


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